TRIBAL REAL ESTATE TRAINING REPORT Finding Common Ground Bringing together tribal, state and federal representatives to exchange information and discuss strategies that cooperatively meet multiple real estate processes and requirements within each agency to facilitate efficient project delivery. The WisDOT Inter-Tribal Task Force hosted a Tribal Real Estate Training on April 15, 2015 in Rothschild, WI. Representatives from Tribal real estate programs, WisDOT, Department of Interior, Office of the Special Trustee, and the Bureau of Indian Affairs came together to present their role in the real estate process. The following participants shared information throughout the day and some commented that they could now put a face to a name. Opening channels of communication between agencies and staff was definitely one of the goals for this training. Tribal Staff 26 WisDOT Staff 27 Department of the Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs 3 Department of the Interior Office of Special Trustee 2 Other Agency Staff 9 TOTAL ATTENDING 67 1
Tribal Real Estate Training Agenda 4-15-15 8:00 8:30 Registration/Continental Breakfast 8:30 9:00 Welcome and Introductions 9:00 10:30 Introduction to Tribal Lands and Jurisdiction. Sandy Dietz, Realty officer, and Dena Ness, Realty Specialist, BIA Great Lakes Agency, WisDOT, Valerie Greene, Office of The Special Trustee, Midwest Regional Supervisory Appraiser, Zoya Mayo, Land Management Officer, Lac du Flambeau, and Richard Monette, Professor of Law. 10:30 10:45 Break 10:45 12:00 Tribal Land Management Program Overviews Mary Jo Nash, Acquisition Manager, Oneida Nation, Zoya Mayo, Land Management Officer, Lac du Flambeau, Nita Kemp, Lac Courte Oreilles Realty Officer, Sandy Dietz, Realty Officer, and Dena Ness, Realty Specialist, BIA Great Lakes Agency 12:00 1:00 Lunch is provided 1:00 1:30 Overview of BIA proposed changes to real estate and land related regulations Sandy Dietz, Realty officer, and Dena Ness, Realty Specialist, BIA Great Lakes Agency 1:30 2:00 WisDOT Real Estate Process Kathy Curren former Litigation Coordinator WisDOT NE Region, Norman Pawelczyk, Division of Transportation Systems Development 2:00 2:15 Break 2:15 3:00 ROW Utility, Compensability and Cultural Resources issues Michael Baumann, Statewide Utility Engineer, WisDOT, James Becker, Department of Transportation, Melinda Young, THPO Coordinator - Lac du Flambeau Tribal Historic Preservation Officer 3:00 4:30 Round table discussion Case Studies Presenters from WisDOT, Department of the Interior, Bureau of Indian Affairs, and Tribal Real Estate Departments, provided insight into each of their roles in the real estate processes. They discussed jurisdictional issues along with the challenges faced when completing projects in a timely manner. Participants were particularly interested in Introduction to Tribal Lands and Jurisdiction. Professor Richard Monette gave a brief summary of the historic legislation that lead to some of the jurisdictional nightmares we face today. A brief description was given for the different land types; fee land, trust land, public land, and allotted land. 2
4-22-15 Debriefing Next steps On the teleconference call were: Mike Bauman, Statewide utility Engineer, Danielle Yancey, WisDOT Tribal Liaison, Mary Jo Nash, Acquisition Manager, Oneida Nation, Kelly Jackson, Statewide Tribal Liaison, Kathy Curren, former WisDOT Litigation Coordinator, Nita Kemp, LCO Realty Officer, Diane Baker, Realty Office, BIA Midwest Regional Office, Todd Kennedy, Regional Roads Engineer, Mary DePerry, Norman Pawelcayk, Division of Transportation Systems Development, Nicole Lynse, WisDOT NC Region, George Thompson, LDF Roads Manager Most agreed the training was a broad brush overview of Real Estate Participant comments stated that there should be more focused follow up trainings Suggested areas of future training - Bring Richard Monette back for more detailed information on Introduction to Tribal Lands and Jurisdiction Public Law 280, Self-Governance Tribes, historical timelines - Include some of the topics in a Cultural Sensitivity Training - Bring Tribal Real Estate staff together to discuss Tribal processes and consent process - Suggested having regional meetings/trainings - Regulation Requirements Timeframe/Timeline for consent process - Explore Tribes training needs and expectations Most participants commented on the time allowed for certain topics. Suggestions were made that follow up trainings should be more focused and that consideration be given to the type of audience for each training. This was a successful first time training in real estate and as most commented, they are looking forward to subsequent trainings. 3
Tribal Real Estate Training Wednesday, April 15, 2015 SUMMARY OF EVALUATION FORMS 1. Tell us about yourself: Tribally Elected Government Official Elected Government Official Tribal Environmental, Transportation or Planning Staff 9 Other: 16 American Indian-owned business 1 WisDOT Administrator/employees 13 Industry contractor/consultants 1 42 RESPONDING Content Excellent Good Needs Improvement Not Applicable Covered Useful Material 20 21 1 Practical to My Needs and Interests 15 22 1 1 Well Organized 16 20 3 Presented at the Right Level 18 19 3 Effective Activities 11 19 7 7 Useful Visual Aids and Handouts 13 21 6 Presentation Needs Not Applicable 4
Excellent Good Improvement Instructors Knowledge 28 12 Instructors Presentation Style 19 23 Instructors Covered Material Clearly 19 21 1 Instructors Responded Well to Questions 28 14 3. FACILITY Please check the box reflecting your opinion of the location. EXCELLENT FAIR POOR FACILITY The location- Grand Lodge Waterpark Resort Room layout and conditions 30 12 23 15 1 Overall, how would you evaluate this workshop training session? Excellent Good Fair Poor 19 15 2 Of the 67 attendees, 42 submitted evaluations for a 63 % rate of completion Of the 42 completing the evaluation form, 19 rated the training as excellent for a rate of 46% Of the 42 completing the evaluation form, 15 rated the training as good for a rate of 36% Additional Comments included on the evaluation forms were: More in detail on some subjects. I write for land uses, it wasn t what I thought it would be. Very Good! Somewhat introductory, but definitely a good start looking forward to future meetings/trainings. Thanks Flow Chart for timeline would be good Overall really interesting training. Would have appreciated a bit more in depth info on the basic underlying principles that impact real estate work Could expand to 1 ½ days to 2 days Training is not directly related to my job. Our tribe has several departments that individually cover different aspects of this training. I apologize I will not be attending the afternoon session We need follow up sessions. So much to learn we need more days. (Richard Monette please) Could create a flow chart Bring Richard back a wealth of knowledge Not impressed. I didn t see collaboration mainly one sided. I don t feel I learned anything Very good information. Would have enjoyed more detailed info and some examples to show practical side Need more detailed info from each tribe Great to get all players together and put faces with names! Great start to new communications This should be held once a year More comprehensive coverage of subject matters less subjects 5
I would benefit from a training that would walk a WisDOT project through Tribal acquisition between WisDOT, Tribe, BIA from start to finish More detail on timeframes for the real estate process when on tribal lands Getting into additional detail and handouts to summarize the process would be helpful in the future Not enough time several presentations were rushed or too brief an overview. Good questions and discussion. Nice to see so much Tribal representation. Good mix of people Very helpful information and processes I m a novice to Tribal real estate. I appreciated Mary Jo s Oneida Tribe fact sheet and explanation of terms. Afternoon information was more helpful that 1 st panel Was expecting more technical information regarding rights of way, easements, would have been good to actually go through BIA checklist and requirements 6