Discussion of: The Seeds of the Crisis: the Housing Market and the Business Cycle by Marcelle Chauvet and Meichi Huang

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Discussion of: The Seeds of the 2007-2009 Crisis: the Housing Market and the Business Cycle by Marcelle Chauvet and Meichi Huang Knut Are Aastveit Norges Bank The 4th Oslo Workshop on Economic Policy: Empirical Business cycle modelling and policy in aftermath of the financial crisis Norwegian School of Management BI, September 3, 2010

A good paper Focus on a very relevant problem Using advanced modeling framework Interesting results Paper is short and precise and easy to read I learned a lot from reading the paper

Aim of Paper In the last decade, the movement of U.S. housing prices departed dramatically from historically patterns This paper: Investigate the interrelationship between U.S. housing cycle and the business cycle in the last decades Aim of paper: To shed light on possible origin of the recent boom and bust in the housing market, the linkages with the broad economy, and assessment of future prospects Is the recent boom and bust in the housing sector unique? If yes, what has changed?

Modeling framework Nonlinear dynamic factor model to represent the phases of the housing market cycle and the business cycle The factors are assumed to follow two distinct Markov-switching processes No restrictions on the relationship between S H t and S BC t Linkages between the two factors are modeled by their Covariance Markov processes VAR specification for factors The measurement and transition equations are estimated simultaneously as a state space model

Results The relationship between the housing cycle and business cycle changed remarkably in the last decade Missed link between these two cycles in the early 2000s The authors show that interest rates are an important factor in the relationship between the business cycle and the housing cycle Extend model to allow for changes in the housing cycle, business cycle and interest rate Linkage between business cycle and the interest rate weaken during the 2002-2004 recovery The association between lagged interest rate and the housing factor became much stronger since the 2001 recession Results suggest that the run up of housing prices since the 2001 is associated with the low level of interest rate

Comment 1 The results in the paper indicates that too loose monetary policy played a central role for the recent housing and economic crisis What are the policy implications of your results? This paper and also others (see for instance Iacoviello (2005) and Bjørnland and Jacobsen (2008)) have found that there is a strong effect from interest rates towards housing prices The recent crisis has shown that housing prices also are important for economic fluctuations Should monetary policy react to housing prices and asset prices?

Comment 2 What is the implications of the change in the linkage between the business cycle factor and the interest rate? A shift/break in monetary policy? If so, what kind of shift? Change in transmission mechanism? Deflationary pressure? The Federal Reserve Bank adopted a low interest rate Due to loose policy Due to large capital inflows from abroad. Especially, Asian countries bought U.S. securities both to peg the exchange rates at an export-friendly level and to hedge against a depreciation of their own currency Due to fear of a deflationary period after the bursting of the Internet bubble.

Comment 3 There are at least two candidate explanations for the current crisis, see Blanchard (2009) and Brunnermeier (2009) Loose monetary policy vs. new transformation in the banking system The traditional banking model Issuing banks hold loans until they are repaid Originate and distribute banking model Loans are pooled, tranched, and then resold via securitization This (may) have affected banks lending standards and can be viewed as a shift in supply of credit This have fueled the housing price boom The empirical analysis do not control for this