1 PROBATE & LACK OF PROBATE IN WA WLTA 2012 Educational Seminar Kennewick, WA October 6, 2012 Sunny Johnson Underwriter Stewart Title
2 What is Probate? Probate is a court procedure to validate the will For our discussion today, Probate will pertain only to insuring a decedent s estate and not addressing guardianships
3 PURPOSE OF PROBATE To identify devisees or successors To identify and protect assets Deal with debts of the deceased i.e. estate taxes, expenses of last illness and funeral & administration fees
4 Common Probate Terms Testate: Person dies with a will Intestate: Person dies without a will Will: PR: Written document of decedent specifying distribution of assets Executor, administrator or special representative
5 Common Probate Terms contd Letters testamentary: Court evidencing that the will has been proved and admitted to probate and that the PR is authorized to act Testamentary trust: A trust created by a will and does not require a separate trust document
6 Common Probate Terms contd Community Property: Property owned by a husband and wife or domestic partnership presumed for property acquired after marriage or domestic partnership unless acquired by gift or inheritance.
7 Common Probate Terms, contd Estate tax: Tax levied on the estate of the decent and paid by the estate Inheritance tax: Tax levied on those who inherit and is paid by those who inherit Washington replaced its inheritance tax with the estate tax in 1981
8 TYPES OF PROBATES There are two main types of probates in WA (1) With court intervention: Large estates or estates that are contested To insure: Title would need either court order; OR The court approved will must specifically direct the PR to transfer to the grantee
9 TYPES OF PROBATES, CONTD (2) Without Court Intervention: Still come court involvement: Petition for non-intervention filed By named PR if there is a will Or By Heir/spouse if no will
10 TYPES OF PROBATES, CONTD PR must show estate is solvent: Court s approval of PR, via issuance of letters testamentary, means solvency has been established and PR is authorized to act Once letters issued, PR has broad powers to transfer property of the estate
11 Probates The above two examples of probates in Washington are in their simple basic form If letters testamentary and order granting nonintervention powers have been issue, we can rely upon that as proof all requirements have been met
12 PROBATES As with other fiduciaries, PR s cannot delegate authority. We cannot accept a POA This is not to say there are not problems arising out of probates!
13 PROBATES Let s say you have a foreign probate. Probate Courts outside of Washington have no jurisdiction in our state. In order to insure, we might require ancillary probate in a county Superior Court in Washington.
14 FOREIGN PROBATES Ancillary probate is an abbreviated judicial proceeding to manage estate assets in this state when a full probate is conducted in another state. With this information & depending on the transaction at hand-we MAY be able to rely on lack of probate procedures with the presumption that the will probated in another state may meet WA statutory requirements
15 LACK OF PROBATE/FOREIGN PROBATE An example: The decedent owned property in Spokane and the executrix of the will lived Coeur d Alene, Idaho The estate was probated in Idaho; The property was the only asset of the estate; The executrix was also the sole heir; Value of the estate was under $200,000.00; This was all verified through the Idaho Probate
16 VESTING TITLE DURING PROBATE The vesting on the commitment will never be in the estate of the deceased or in the personal representative Probate allows title to vest in either an heir-at- law or a devisee named in a will Remember-a will must be probated to be effective and to identify the beneficiary With or without a will-the estate is subject to probate administration
17 VESTING During a pending probate fee simple vesting on the commitment SHOULD show: Heirs and/or devisees of Mary Sunshine, deceased A deed from the personal representative would be necessary to transfer title-grantor clause would read: Cloudie Sunshine, PR of the estate of Mary Sunshine, deceased
18 VESTING IN CLOSED PROBATE If the probate is closed without a sale of the property, title may be vested directly in the specific devisee or residuary beneficiary named in the will or an heir identified in an intestate probate If the identity of the above is not clear contact your underwriter
19 VESTING IN A CLOSED PROBATE The names of any such heir or devisee or residuary beneficiary must be run in the GI index Federal tax lien or judgment should be shown in any commitment, policy or guarantee, even during the pending probate as such liens attach at death of the decedent Names should also be run for capacity
20 NO PROBATE
21 PROBATE NO PROBATE COST SOME $$$$ NO $$ (BUT TITLE SURCHARGE) TIME FEW MONTHS NO TIME CERTAINTY Is there a will? Is the will valid? If no valid will, who are the heirs? Which creditors are entitled to payment? COURT DECIDES COURT DECIDES COURT DECIDES COURT DECIDES WE DECIDE WE DECIDE WE DECIDE WE DECIDE
22 Food for thought when considering NO PROBATE (Lack of Probate) Wills: Non-probated will is just a piece of paper - you need to make the decision CPA: Is there one?
23 Conflict? You re provided a will along with the Lack of Probate Affidavit and death certificate revealing conflicting information you need to decide how to handle. Require probate?
24 Creditors Claims: How long since death? Any evidence of long illness? Proof that creditors were paid? Any recorded liens? DSHS liens: Statute provides the state a secret lien on decedent's property in order to collect for medical care given.
25 Rule out DSHS lien if any of the following apply: No medical or services provided by state (get clearance letter from DSHS) Surviving spouse lived on property at time of death Decedent was under 55 at time of death Several years have passed since death (4+)
26 At the examining level set up an exception such as: Possible lien against the Estate of Mary Sunshine, deceased, in favor of the State of Washington, Department of Social and Health Services for recovery of costs, if any, of medical assistance pursuant to RCW 43.20B.080.
27 Estate taxes: For estates valued near or in excess of 1 million dollars assume an estate tax is due. (this is a rare occurrence-should be directed to counsel or underwriting for requirements) Review the lack of probate affidavit carefully-checking approximate value at death
28 How do we determine who gets the property? Who are the heirs? In what order do we take them in? Does the list (as shown on the LOP Affidavit) make sense? Have you used other sources to verify?
29 Determining who gets the property: If community property, property acquired after 1974 as husband and wife/domestic partners, the first spouse/domestic partner dies property transfers to surviving spouse or domestic partner no CPA required
30 PRIOR TO 1974 CPA required to vest fee simple in surviving spouse. Vesting would be 50% in surviving spouse - 50% in heirs of the deceased
31 INTESTATE SUCCESSION PURSUANT TO STATUTE RCW
32 Community property but no surviving spouse Decedent s surviving parents: If no surviving parentsthe to: Decedent s surviving siblings (children of decedent s parents). If no surviving siblings-then to: Decedent s surviving grandparents. If no surviving grandparents, then to: Decedent s aunts, uncles and other issues of grandparents
33 IF SEPARATE PROPERTY: SURVIVING SPOUSE GETS: 100% IF DECEDENT LEAVES NO SURVIVING CHILDREN, PARENTS OR SIBLINGS 75% IF DECEDENT LEAVES NO SURVIVING CHILDREN, BUT THERE ARE SURVIVING PARENTS AND SIBLINGS 50% IF DECEDENT LEAVES SURVING CHILDREN THE PORTION OF THE SEPARATE PROPERTY NOT TAKEN BY THE SURVIVING SPOUSE (OR IF THERE IS NO SURVING SPOUSE, ALL THE SEPARATE PROPERTY) FOLLOWS THE SAME SUCCESSION AS COMMUNITY PROPERTY IN BOTH CASES IF NO HEIRS, THE STATE OF WASHINGTON IS THE LAST STOP!
34 TRANSFERRING TITLE HOW MANY DEEDS? Deed from all the heirs listed in the LOP affidavit Will you need to require spouses of heirs to sign?
35 Grantor clause: Without a will: Cloudie Sunshine and Rainbow Sunshine, heirs of Mary Sunshine, deceased
36 Grantor clause: With a will: Cloudie Sunshine and Rainbow Sunshine, devisees under the will of Mary Sunshine, Deceased This serves as a clear transfer of the last record title holder
37 If we have been provided a copy of the will: Would the will be recognized by a court as valid and final? Questions to ask yourself about validity: >Is it signed by the decedent? >Are there two witnesses?
38 Validity questions continued: Is there evidence of incompetence? Evidence of undue influence or coercion? > Property given to a non-relative > Witnesses were friends of the devisee
39 Validity questions continued: Is this the final will? > How old is the will? > Any life changes that suggest a new will would have been done?
40 Confirm creditors claims have been paid Confirm no DSHS liens has been filed Confirm no estate tax due Same requirements as with no will
41 REMEMBER: Unless the will is filed-it s a piece of paper that does have information we could use to assist in our determination to insure and not require probate
42 Premium Surcharge Why should we charge extra? > Additional underwriting risk > Surcharge less than cost of probate Check your underwriter s filed rate schedule for appropriate surcharges It could be up to 100% from 0-6 years
43 TRUE CONFESSIONS! My personal run in with lack of probate claim! Transaction: Refinance Facts: An unmarried couple acquired property as two single people in 2004;
44 We received request to open a refi commitment in May 2006 (middle of the refi madness!); Commitment went out Joe Smith and Mary Chan, each as their separate estate; Informed that Chan was deceased;
45 Received (brought in by the sales repher best customer!) a death certificate and LOP affidavit; Reviewed the information provided and prepared a supplemental amending vesting;
46 Next day we received the recording package-on hold until the 3 day rescission period was up; We recorded-issued policy all good, right? In my haste, I did not give all documentation a THOROUGH REVIEW!.
47 The LOP affidavit stated Chan has no heirs however the death cert (on second review sitting next to our claims counsel!) disagreed with that statement The informant on the death certificate was her brother.
48 Not only did she have a sibling, but she also left a daughter that the brother was in the process of adopting. The ugh factor hit! Fortunately, the borrower co-operated (after being reminded that the affidavit is a legal, binding document = fraud!)
49 and the proceeds were negotiated through claims counsel and the deceased brother received half in exchange for a quit claim deed. NO MATTER HOW MUCH PRESSURE MAY BE BEING APPLIED AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT REVIEW, REVIEW, REVIEW!
50 Our preference is always for filed probate allowing the courts to make the determination; Being practical and realistic-this will not always happen; Title officers and examiners need to be prudent and cautious in their review When in doubt consult counsel or your favorite underwriter for guidance
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