The Family history of Charles Thomas TAYLOR and Agnes LECKIE Chart BOYLE the Fencible Family of Howick Charles Thomas TAYLOR Agnes LECKIE

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1 The Family history of Charles Thomas TAYLOR and Agnes LECKIE Chart (Weblink TA Taylor Leckie 1878 New Zealand) (Weblink to Charles s parents to be created chart 24-25) (Weblink to Agnes s parents TA Leckie Boyle 1864 New Zealand chart 26-27) and BOYLE the Fencible Family of Howick Chapter Five Children of Margaret BOYLE and Stewart LECKIE Charles Thomas TAYLOR B Castlemain Victoria Australia D unknown M 28 November 1878 Goldsborough West Coast New Zealand Agnes LECKIE B 26 June 1865 Anderson Bay Dunedin New Zealand D 12 June 1907 Christchurch New Zealand Children: 1. Edward Charles TAYLOR born 10 May 1882 Dunedin New Zealand 2. Edith Emily TAYLOR born 13 May 1883 Dunedin New Zealand 3. Florence Stella TAYLOR born 28 May 1893 Dunedin New Zealand Charles or Thomas or Charles Thomas or Thomas Charles TAYLOR was born between 1851 and 1854 in Castlemain Victoria Australia. I have been unable to locate any confirmation regarding his birth. He used different combination of his Christian names and with such a common surname of TAYLOR this made researching very difficult. There is little known about Charles TAYLOR. His marriage makes his date of birth around 1851 and place not recorded but according to his son s birth registration he was born around 1854 in Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia. Castlemaine is between the old gold mining towns of Ballarat and Bendigo in Victoria Australia. When gold was discovered on the West Coast of New Zealand many miners left the dwindling gold mines of Ballarat and Bendigo in Victoria Australia and travelled to New Zealand. Charles may have been one of these miners. I have been unable to locate information about when he left Australia and arrived in New Zealand. Over the years the various New Zealand birth, marriage and death registration of Charles children record several different Christian names and occupations for their father. They include, Charles Thomas - Charles Thomas - Thomas Charles - Edward and Edward Charles and occupation horse breaker - commercial traveller and butcher. There was a Thomas TAYLOR who left Nelson on the steamer Wallace. This appeared in a newspaper article of the West Coast Times dated 25 January Perhaps he was our man but I do not know for sure. (Reference National Library of NZ paperspast West Coast Times newspaper 25 January 1877) The below article also appeared in the West Coast Times dated 25 January 1877 and again on the 26, 27, 29, 30 & 31 January, 26, 27 & 28 February and 1 & 2 March 1877 NOAH S ARK LIVERY AND BAIT STABLES Tancred - Street JAMES RAE, Proprietor The Public are respectfully informed that the business of the above Stables will be carried on under the Management of MR TAYLOR, in all its branches, during the temporary absence of the proprietor. 1

2 Horses, Buggies, Wagginettes, and Patrons let out on HIRE at reasonable charges F A LEARMONTH For the Public Trustee. (Reference National Library of NZ papers past website database of New Zealand newspapers) I believe this Thomas was our Charles TAYLOR as when he married his occupation was carrier. Record of Proceedings in Criminal Cases in the Resident Magistrate s Court at Kamaru Date 21 June 1877 Prosecutor Regina by Police Person Charged Thos TAYLOR Offence Breach of peace within view of a constable Plea Guilty Decision Fined 10/- and cost 1/6d or 48 hours Costs 1/6d Signed as Paid (Reference Archives of NZ Christchurch CH 446 3/1 Kumara Magistrates Court ) West Coast Times newspaper 18 September 1877 The following Jury was empanelled: - Among the various jurors names was a Thomas TAYLOR. (Reference National Library of NZ papers past website West Coast Times newspaper18 September 1877) New Zealand Police Gazettes Wellington Wednesday November page 154 Stolen on the 7 th ultimo, from the dwelling of Ellie Barnes, Kumara, a ladies gold ring, with three rows of rubies and emeralds, six in each row, all emeralds in centre row, side worn from friction with other rings, value 7, and a 1 note. Ring identifiable. Suspicion attached to Thomas TAYLOR, a native of Australia, a groom and wagon driver, thirty years of age, 5 feet 6 inches, medium build, fresh completion, dark-brown hair, small whiskers and moustache. (Reference Archives of NZ Wellington Agency Police, Series 12, Item 13 Police Gazette 1879 page 154) I believe the above Thomas is our Charles TAYLOR as he was born in Australia and when he married his occupation was carrier. Apparently if the police suspected someone of a crime they would publish details in the Police gazettes. I have searched Court records, Police Gazettes and Newspapers and can find no further details regarding any action been taken against Thomas TAYLOR. In a later Police Gazette it recorded another man been charged with stealing some jewellery in the West Coast area so perhaps he was the original thief. The Grey River Argus newspaper Monday 02 November 1878 Country Roll Riding for Hohonu Country of Grey Electoral Roll Thomas TAYLOR Maori Point Vote 1 Entitled to vote between 1 st day of July 1878 to 30 th June (Reference Greymouth Library microfiche of Newspaper The Grey River Argus ) SEARCH West Coast Times newspaper Alexander Turnbull Library for more information. Some of the above information may not belong to our Charles TAYLOR but someone else who shared the Christian name Thomas. According to Charles s intention to marry application he dwelled in Arahura for 5 months making his arrival in the town about June Kumaru was near Arahura and both in the Waimea district. 2

3 I mention that Charles s occupation was carrier and his future father in law was also a carrier so this is probably how he met his future wife. Agnes LECKIE was born on 26 June 1865 at Anderson Bay Dunedin New Zealand. Her parents were Margaret formerly BOYLE and Stewart LECKIE occupation Sawyer. Stewart LECKIE Sawyer of Anderson Bay registered the birth on 10 July The registrar was John GILLIES. (Reference RGO NZ birth registration 1865 folio 595 line 562 Dunedin district) Caversham School records. Alice LECKIE admitted 16/10/1871, birthday (age) 6 years Please note the Christian name should read Agnes not Alice (Reference Hocken Library Archives 26/82/D/0132 & 26/82/H/0365 extracted by Mrs LECKIE) Caversham School records. Agnes LECKIE admitted 1875, birthday (age) 9 Years (Reference Hocken Library Archives 26/82/D/0132 & 26/82/H/0365 extracted by Mrs LECKIE) Around June 1878 Agnes and her parents left Dunedin and settled in Arahura Waimea Westcoast district. Intention to marry application 02 November 1878 Waimea district Charles TAYLOR aged 27 years bachelor occupation Carrier dwelled Arahura 5 months and Agnes LECKIE age 15 years spinster dwelled Arahura 5 months intend to marry in the registrar Office Goldsborough by registrar John S HICKSON. Stewart LECKIE father gave consent for the minor to marry. (Reference Archives NZ Wellington Intention to marry agency BDM series 20 item 23 page 617 line 4 Waimea district) Agnes was not 15 years old but 13 years and 5 months old when she married. Charles TAYLOR aged 27 years bachelor occupation Carrier married Agnes LECKIE aged 15 years spinster on 28 November 1878 at the Office of the Registrar Goldsborough in the district of Waimea. The witnesses at the wedding were Stewart LECKIE occupation Miner and Margaret LECKIE both from Arahura. Stewart signed his name on the marriage register along with the bride and groom. Margaret made her X mark, as she could not write. The registrar was John S HICKSON. (Reference RGO NZ birth registration 1878 folio 3297 line 1 Waimea district) Arahura, where Agnes parents were recorded as living, is situated between Hokitika and Goldsborough. Kumara is north of Goldsborough towards Greymouth. In the publication The West Coast Gold Rushes by Philip Ross May there is additional information about Goldsborough, Kumara and Arahura. Goldsborough became an important goldmining centre following the discovery of gold there in By the year 2000 is was a deserted ghost town situated between Hokitika and Greymouth. Goldsborough locality is on the north side of Big Dam Hill, 13 km south west of Kumara and 17km north east of Hokitika in Westland County North Westland. (Reference Dolimore publication page 109) I visit Goldsborough in 2010 and found a grassed rest area which was once the town. Any signs of the early settlement are well gone or covered by the lush bush but there is a plaque recording historical information about Goldsborough. 3

4 1864 December Gold was discovered in Goldsborough 1865 February Population estimated at days later it has risen to 1, March Stores Butchers and Banks established themselves in the town 1866 August Population 3,000 by October it is estimated at 7, Harsh conditions and low returns cause the population to drop to 1, A large flood causes considerable damage to property and claims Goldsborough was Folkstown. Post Office Supply centre for the Waimea diggings, peaking at 6,550 in Dick Seddon had a store here. (Reference Westport Museum compiled list) The Greymouth Museum photocopied some photos and a map of Goldsborough which included surnames of those who dwelled in the town. Taylor is not recorded and I have been unable to date the map as both are of very poor quality. On a later visit I was unable to locate any of the images. Perhaps they have been transferred to Hokitika Museum as Goldsborough no longer comes under the Greymouth district. West Coast Times 1 July 1879 Warden s Court Thomas TAYLOR application for a dam at Redman s Creek, was granted. Same for a dam on Redman s Terrace, was also granted (Reference National Library of NZ paperspast West Coast Times 1 July 1879) West Coast Times newspaper 13 September 1879 The following Jury was empanelled: - Among the various Jurors named was Thomas TAYLOR (Reference National Library of NZ paperspast West Coast Times 13 September 1879) West Coast Times newspaper 5 August 1880 An inquest was held yesterday at Woodstock on the body of a minor named TAYLOR who dropped dead suddenly when at his work. The particulars of the inquest have not yet been received. (Reference National Library of NZ paperspast West Coast Times 5 August 1880) West Coast Times 8 September 1880 Ross - Warden s Court - The following persons were granted resident areas for twelve months, for sections occupied by them in the Township of Ross, to enable them to take out leases under the 27 th section of the Land Act 1879 Thomas TAYLOR section 215 (Reference National Library of NZ papers past website West Coast Times 8 September 1880) I am not sure if the above information belongs to our Charles TAYLOR using the Christian name of Thomas but what we do know is by 1880 he began using the Christian name of Charles. Goldsborough s population had been dropping since 1871 but I do not know when Charles left Goldsborough perhaps in 1879 as he was settled in Dunedin by Dunedin Electoral Roll Charles TAYLOR qualification residential Great King Street Dunedin occupation Builder (Reference National Library of NZ and Alexander Turnbull Library microfilm of 1880 Dunedin Electoral Roll) 1881 Dunedin West Electoral Roll Charles TAYLOR occupation Builder residence Great King Street Dunedin qualification residential (Reference National Library of NZ New Zealand Electoral Roll on microfiche record number 1095) 4

5 1882 City of Dunedin Electoral Roll Charles TAYLOR qualification residential Great King Street Dunedin occupation Builder (Reference National Library of NZ and Alexander Turnbull Library microfilm of 1882 City of Dunedin Electoral Roll) Although Agnes and Charles TAYLOR married in 1878 it was not until 3½ years later that their first child was born. Finding Edward s birth registration was very difficult but fortunately his descendants remembered his date of birth and some of his school records confirmed the birth date so I had a good starting point. Edward Charles (registered Stewart James) TAYLOR was born on the 10 May 1882 at New Street Dunedin. His parents were recorded as Agnes formerly LECKIE aged 18 years born Andersons Bay Otago and Thomas Charles TAYLOR aged 28 years born Castlemain Victoria Australia occupation Carter. The registration recorded that the parents were married on 22 November 1880 Waimea Westland New Zealand. The Informant was S LECKIE grandfather of child Dunedin Informant authorised in writing by the mother on 14 June The Registrar was A R Nere [sic]. (Reference: Registrar Generals Office NZ 1882 Folio 1927 Dunedin) The grandfather Stewart LECKIE not only gave the wrong Christian names on the birth registration but also gave the wrong marriage date of the parents. Agnes s age matches her birth date but her husband Charles s age differs from the birth date when they married. Edward was born at his grandparent s home in New Street Dunedin. The additional information not known until now was the place of birth Castlemaine, Victoria Australia for Agnes s husband who is now recorded as Thomas Charles TAYLOR. That is if Stewart LECKIE gave the correct details about his son-in-law. The grandfather Stewart had a son named James Edward Charles LECKIE perhaps Stewart got confused when naming his grandson and this is why he registered the child Stewart James and not Edward Charles TAYLOR. Some family traditions state that the male members of the family often had a few drinks before or after they registered a birth. If Stewart had a few too many drinks then this may have resulted in him forgetting the Christian names. Agnes and Charles TAYLOR had a daughter Edith Emily TAYLOR who was born on 13 May Edith s daughter gave me her mother s date of birth and some of her school records confirm the date of birth. Again I have been unable to locate Edith Emily TAYLOR New Zealand birth registration and/or a baptism to assist in confirming her date and place of birth or parents details. The first records being school records that I located for Edith was in 1890 but she should have begun school 2 years earlier in Agnes s parents Margaret and Stewart LECKIE had a daughter Edith Jane LECKIE who was born 04 January 1883 New Street Dunedin the same birth year as Edith Emily TAYLOR. She started at Union Street School on 07 March 1888 and her address was Great King Street. Edith Jane (and Agnes Taylor s) mother Margaret died 24 May 1889 at Great King Street, Dunedin. Great King Street was the home of Agnes and Charles TAYLOR. (Reference RGO NZ birth registration 1883 folio & web reg. 1883/4748 line 326 Dunedin district and Union Street School records Dunedin HKN AG81/U2/0628 and RGO NZ death registration 1889 folio 938 line 249 Dunedin) Up to 1889 I had located birth and school records for Edith Jane LECKIE but I could not locate any records for Edith Emily TAYLOR. Then after the death of Agnes s TAYLOR mother Margaret LECKIE I could not find any records for Edith Jane LECKIE but then Edith Emily TAYLOR starts to appear on the School records. 5

6 I believe Edith Emily TAYLOR was actually Edith Jane LECKIE. This is only theory but the research to date leads me to think that it could be true. Perhaps after the death of Margaret LECKIE her daughter Agnes TAYLOR took over the care of Edith Jane LECKIE and brought her sister up as her own daughter Edith Emily TAYLOR. I have searched and there is no trace of any New Zealand marriage and/or death registration under the name of Edith Jane LECKIE or any combination of the Christian names. Edith Jane LECKIE was also not recorded as living issue on her mother Margaret s death registration. She also did not appear on her father Stewart s Australian death registration even though it recorded deceased for his youngest son Benjamin. When Edith Emily TAYLOR married the registration recorded her place of birth as Dunedin but her parent details did not quite match. When Edith s mother Agnes died the death registration recorded her living issue as 1 male age 22 years (Edward was 25) and 1 female age 14 years (Florence) and no mention of (Edith) Agnes s other female issue. Agnes TAYLOR was the witness at the wedding of her uncle Archibald LECKIE to Mary COLLINS on 25 March 1884 at the Residence of Rev W B PURTON in Musselburgh Dunedin. Agnes s father Stewart LECKIE was also a witness. (Reference RGO NZ 1884 Marriages Folio 678 South Dunedin District) 1887 Dunedin West Electoral Roll Charles TAYLOR qualification residential Great King Street Dunedin occupation Builder (Reference National Library of NZ and Alexander Turnbull Library microfilm of 1887 Dunedin West Electoral Roll) Union Street School Stuart LECKIE birth date 7/8 October 1888 parent/guardian Stuart address Gt. King Street admission date 07 March 1888 register number 0740 (Reference Hocken Library Dunedin HKN AG81/U1/0740) Edith LECKIE birth date 6/13 October 1888 parent/guardian Stuart address Gt. King Street admission date 07 March 1888 register number 0628 (Reference Hocken Library Dunedin HKN AG81/U2/0628) The 1888 Union Street School registers record the parents address as Great King Street were Agnes and Charles dwelled. I believe that Stuart LECKIE was actually Edward Charles TAYLOR and Edith LECKIE was our Edith Emily TAYLOR. The dates of birth are both incorrect as the year is the same as the admission year. After 1888 I have been unable to locate any school records for Stuart and/or Edith LECKIE. On 24 May 1889 Agnes TAYLOR s mother Margaret LECKIE formerly BOYLE died at Great King Street, Dunedin. I believe Agnes nursed her mother when she was sick as she died in the home of Agnes and Charles TAYLOR. (Reference Registrar Generals Office NZ 1889 Folio 938 Dunedin District) 1890 Dunedin Electoral Roll Charles TAYLOR qualification residential Great King Street Dunedin occupation Builder (Reference National Library of NZ and Alexander Turnbull Library microfilm of 1890 Dunedin Electoral Roll) After 1890 I have been unable to trace any information regarding Charles TAYLOR. I believe that Charles deserted Agnes and his family around I located the 1890 Caversham school records for Agnes and Charles TAYLOR but the details of their parents and address were not recorded. 6

7 Caversham School Dunedin Edward TAYLOR birth date 08 October 1881 admission date 30 January 1890 last day 13 October 1891 destination left district attained standard I (July 1891) register 1427 (no details of parents or address) (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN 26/82/J/1427) Edith TAYLOR birth date 13 October 1882 parent/guardian G admission date 30 January 1890 last day 13 October 1891 destination left district attained Standard 1 (1/1891) register 1527 (no details of parents or address) (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN 26/82/K/1527) The school records now begin to record the children parent as Mrs Taylor, mother and Adelaide which is another Christian name used by our Agnes TAYLOR formerly LECKIE. Normal School Dunedin Edward TAYLOR birth date 08 April 1882 parent/guardian Mrs Taylor address Leith Street last school Caversham admission date 20 October 1891 last day 11 March 1892 destination Union Street attained standard I register 2649 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN G294/N2649) Edith TAYLOR birth date 13 October 1883 parent/guardian Mrs Taylor address Leith Street last school Caversham Std 1 admission date 20 October 1891 last day 01 March 1892 destination Union Street register 2648 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN AG294/N/2648) Union Street School Dunedin Edward TAYLOR birth date 10 May 1892 parent/guardian mother address Filleul Street last school Caversham Normal register 1307 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN G81/U1/1307) Edith TAYLOR birth date 09 May 1892 parent/guardian mother address Filleul Street last school Caversham & Normal School last day Std I destination 01 July 1891 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers) High Street Dunedin Edward TAYLOR birth date 9 years 11 months parent/guardian Adelaide address Serpentine Avenue last school Union Street admission date 06 April 1892 last day 18 May 1892 destination Home attained Standard II (6/93) register 1138 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN G167/2/1138) Edith TAYLOR birth date 8 years 11 months parent/guardian Adelaide address Serpentine Avenue last school Union Street admission date 06 April 1892 attained Standard I (5/92) II (6/93) register 1139 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN AG167/2/1139) In 1893 women received the vote but I have been unable to locate any New Zealand electoral roll entry to match our Agnes TAYLOR. Agnes s husband Charles does not appear as parent/guardian on any of the children s school records. There is also no trace of Charles on the 1893 Dunedin Electoral Roll. I believe this confirms that Charles was not living with Agnes and the children. For information about maintenance payments along with payment for illegitimate children are located in various registers. I have research only some of the Police Gazettes but located no information about Charles deserting Agnes. I still have additional areas of research to do which includes the following resources held at Archives NZ Wellington Maintenance Order Books, Criminal Records Books, Maintenance Payment registers and Police Gazettes. A female child was born on 28 May 1893 in Dunedin and was later known as Florence Stella TAYLOR. Her birth date was given to me by her descendants but I have been unable to locate a New Zealand birth registration and/or baptism until 1911 when she 7

8 was age 18 years. Florence Stella TAYLOR does not appear on school records until around 1904 but she should have appeared before that at around When researching school records I located information that she was actually born Florrie/Florence SINCOTT and in later years Agnes became her foster mother and she then became known as Florence Stella TAYLOR. Forbury School Edw. TAYLOR birth date 08 May 1882 parents/guardian Mrs Taylor address Roughton Street last school High Street School admission date 24 July 1893 last day 12 July 1894 destination left district register 2195 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN 123/88C/2195) Edith TAYLOR birth date 13 May 1883 parents/guardian Mrs Taylor address Roughton Street last school High Street School admission date 24 July 1893 last day 09 July 1894 destination left district register 2194 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN 123/88C/2194) I have searched and been unable to locate any school records for Agnes s son Edward Charles TAYLOR after 12 July Edward would have been aged 12 years 2 months old on his last day at school. His descendants told me that when Edward left school he went to work for a man (Tinker) doing odd jobs in Southland travelling around in a horse and cart. High Street School Edith TAYLOR birth date 11 years 2 months parent/guardian Mr Roy address Maclaggan Street last school Forbury Std II admission date 06 August 1894 register 1617 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN AG167/2/1617) Union Street School Dunedin Edith TAYLOR birth date 13 May 1896 parent/guardian J R Roy address Union Street last school Normal Std III admission date 27 January 1896 register 1541 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN AG81/U2/1541) Forbury School Edith TAYLOR birth date 13 May 1883 parent/guardian Ada Tayor address S Dunedin last school Union Street Std III admission date 10 February 1896 last day 19 February 1896 destination left district Std III register 2725 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN 123/88C/2725) Ravensbourne School Edith Emily TAYLOR birth date 13 May 1884 parent/guardian Jane Roy address Ravensbourne last school Union Street Std admission date 17 February 1897 last day 03 June 1897 destination Home register 0408 (Reference Hoken Library Archives Caversham School registers HKN AG205/4/0408) By using the school records of Edward and Edith we are able to trace the movement of Agnes and her children. Mr, J R, and Jane ROY were recorded as guardian for Edith but I have being unable to locate who they are and their connection to Agnes. From To Name & place 30 January October 1891 Caversham 20 October /11 March 1892 Mrs Taylor Leith Street Dunedin 01 July 1891 Mother Taylor Filleul Street 11 March April 1892 Mother Taylor Filleul Street 06 April May 1892 Adelaide Taylor Serpentine Avenue 24 July July 1894 Mrs Taylor Roughton Street 06 August 1894 Mr Roy Maclaggan Street 8

9 27 January 1896 J R Roy Union Street 10 February February 1896 Ada Taylor South Dunedin 17 February June 1897 Jane Roy Ravensbourne (Reference Hocken Library Archives Dunedin various School records) Agnes moved from Dunedin and settled in Invercargill around Stories handed down by some TAYLOR descendant s state that an Invercargill newspaper advertised for someone to care of a female child. Agnes TAYLOR replied to the advert and later brought her up as her own and the child became known as Florence Stella TAYLOR. Florence Stella TAYLOR was originally known as Florrie/Florence SINCOTT and her father was Frederick SINCOTT. By using New Zealand Electoral rolls and School records we are able to trace the movements of Frederick and Florence SINCOTT. Florrie/Florence SINCOTT attended Makarewa School before August 1899 followed by Waikiwi School from 14 August 1899 to 12 July 1900 then Invercargill Middle School around By 1904 she was using the name Florence TAYLOR on school records. (Reference Waikiwi School register number 181 Invercargill Middle school register number 7076) I have been unable to locate any records regarding Florence s mother except for a notation on the Waikiwi school records destination parents gone to Invercargill. I believe Florence s mother may have died but I have searched and cannot locate any New Zealand death registration. Perhaps she may have died in Australia. SEARCH (Reference RGO Australian death registration Frederick SINCOTT was dwelling in Makarewa between 1899 and 1900 then from 1900 to 1902 he dwelled at the Union boarding house on the corner of Gala Street & Dee Street Invercargill. (Reference Alexander Turnbull Library Southland Directories books 1900, & New Zealand Post Officer Directory page 1618) Agnes s daughter Edith Emily TAYLOR (age 18years) married William Frederick TRAINOR on 5 February 1901 in Invercargill. The marriage registration recorded Edith s parents as Adelaide Alice SINCOTT-TAYLOR formerly LECKIE and Charles Thomas TAYLOR, occupation Horse Breaker. When Edith s mother gave consent for the minor to marry on the Intention to marry application she was recorded as Adelaide Alice SINCOTT. (Reference RGO NZ marriage registration 1901 folio 1232 Invercargill & Archives NZ BDM 20/53 page Invercargill) Agnes TAYLOR now known as known as Adelaide Alice SINCOTT was the housekeeper of the Union boarding house on the corner of Gala Street & Dee Street Invercargill from 14 July 1900 to 9 th October While running the boarding house she became bankrupt. New Zealand Bankruptcies recorded Adelaide SINCOTT of Invercargill, a boarding house keeper, as bankrupt on 7 October (Reference FHC Micro Fiche of New Zealand Bankruptcies) The New Zealand Gazette dated 17 October 1901 recorded: In Bankruptcy - In the District court, holden at Invercargill Notice is hereby given that Adelaide SINCOTT of Invercargill, Boarding-house - keeper was this day adjudged bankrupt; and I hereby summon a meeting of creditors, to be holden at my office, on Friday the 18 th day of October 1901, at 2.30 o clock. Invercargill 7 th October 1901 Charles ROUT Deputy Official Assignee (Reference Archives of New Zealand Wellington The New Zealand Gazette Volume II page 2008 October ) 9

10 The Southern Times Newspaper Saturday 19 October 1901 records: IN BANKRUPTCY A meeting of creditors in the estate of Adelaide SONCOTT, boarding house keeper Invercargill held at Mr Rout s office yesterday afternoon, was attended by five creditors: Mr R.H. Rattray appearing on behalf of the debtor whose statement showed that there were creditors (all secure) for $229.9s.9d, against which there is furniture worth $100, and book beds estimated to produce $4 the being deficiency being thus $125.9s.9d. The creditors were P Thomson (Wellington) $94, D Roche, $33.10s, D R Jones $31, A R LECKIE $ d, Small and Co. / (Hardware advertisers) $14, McDruer, TAYLOR and Co. (Regular advertisers- Direct Importers - millinery, umbrellas, clothing materials). $11, W E Pope $5.2s.4d, Dairy Supply Co $4.12s.11d, W S Waterson $4.2s, R G Spiers $1.3s.6d, Herbert, Haynes and Co $16.6s, and T. Flint 16s. Debtor, sworn, said she had been keeping the Union Boarding House since 14 th July 1900 when she had no capital, and her only debt was $100 borrowed from Mr Thomson to purchase furniture. All the other debts, expecting Broad, Small s and McGruers, has been incurred within the last few months. She first found that she was getting into difficulties just before Easter, but hoped that she would pull up again after the winter was over. She filed because two of the creditors were pressing her. When pressed she sold out expecting to realise sufficient to pay the creditors in full, and with this in view she gave orders to Messrs Jones and Roche for the full amount of their claims. When she found that the valuation was $87 she filed in order that all the creditors would share equally. She had no proposal to make and the high price of necessaries during the winter has a good deal to do with her present position. A statement prepared by Mr Ratray showed that for the sixteen months debtor has been in the Boarding House the butcher were $868.9s. The expenditure was: Butcher $400: Groceries, $919.12s.6d; Rent $96; Wages $96; Board Small and Co, $41; coal; $40, bread, $36 Gas, $32; Milk, $28.16s; drapers, $19.16s.9p; P. Thomson, $11.1s total of $1000.5s.3d. A creditor stated that he would like the meeting adjourned to allow of Mr Roche being present and on his motion, this was decided on. Friday next being fixed as the date. (Reference National Library of NZ Newspaper Archives The Southland Times Saturday October ) Please note that Small & Co was Hardware advertisers and Taylor and Co was regular advertisers and direct importers for millinery, umbrellas & clothing material. There was no report of this meeting was noted in a close reading of the Saturday 26 October or Saturday 2 nd November issues, or a browse of other newspapers. Up to the 13 November 1901 there were reports of three other creditors meetings for different bankrupts. Mrs King took over the running of the Boarding House and the Wanted column appeared of The Southern Times Newspaper reads: WANTED Mrs King begs to announce that she has taken over Union Boarding House, Dee Street and hopes by strict attention to the wants of the Public to merit a share of their support. (Reference National Library of NZ Newspaper Archives Southland Times Invercargill October 9, 10, ) I have come to the conclusion that after Charles TAYLOR deserted his wife Agnes she left Dunedin and settled in Invercargill and began living with Frederick SINCOTT and became known as Adelaide Alice SINCOTT. She ran the Union Boarding House and looked after Florence SINOCTT. After Agnes (Adelaide) was declared bankrupt I believe Frederick SINCOTT deserted her as well as his own daughter Florence who later became known as Florence Stella TAYLOR Wairau Electoral roll = Frederick SINCOTT resident Seddon occupation Wagoner (Reference National Library of NZ microfiche of NZ Electoral rolls) The only records of Frederick after 1905 were 1919 Wellington Central Electoral Roll. 10

11 Agnes s son Edward Charles TAYLOR married Minnie WILBY on 13 July 1902 in Lyttleton, Christchurch. Edward recorded his parents as mother Ada TAYLOR formerly LEEKIE and father Edward TAYLOR occupation Horse Breaker. When Edward TAYLOR (widower) married again in 1933 he recorded his parents as Adelaide Alice formerly LECKIE and Charles TAYLOR occupation Butcher. (Reference Registrar Generals Office Lyttleton District 1902 folio 4200 item 46) I have been told by some of Agnes s descendant s three different stories about the death of Agnes husband Charles Thomas TAYLOR. The first story stated Charles died by falling from a horse in Balclutha around Agnes (formerly LECKIE) TAYLOR had a cousin who died from falling off a horse in Wellington. The second story stated that Charles died from falling rocks while working in the Otira Gorge between Christchurch and Greymouth. Agnes (formerly LECKIE) TAYLOR s uncle, James BOYLE, died from falling rocks at Britamart Point Auckland. The third story was that Charles TAYLOR died from drowning in the Dunedin Harbour. Agnes grandmother Ellen (formerly FANNING) BOYLE was believed to have drowned in Auckland harbour but it was actually another Fencible soldier s wife. When the ships surgeon s records were located it recorded that Ellen had died aboard the ship after the birth of a daughter while the ship was anchored in the Auckland Harbour. What do I conclude from these three different family stories well if Charles TAYLOR deserted Agnes these stories may have been created to protect her children. When Agnes the supposed widow moved to Invercargill and lived with Frederick SINCOTT the family may have created additional stories to protect her good name. When stories are handed down from generation to generation the truth fades and we may never know the true story. What we do know is that to Agnes s her three children were Edward Charles TAYLOR, Edith Emily TAYLOR and Florence Stella TAYLOR. Agnes and Florence continued to live in the Invercargill region until 12 February Redan Valley School Southland Florence TAYLOR date of birth 21 February 1905 parent/guardian Taylor address Redan admission date 1904 last School attended Invercargill (Reference NZSG Southland Branch transcribed School register number 78) Please note that Florence could not have been born in 1905 and admitted to school in I believe the last day of School was 21 February Invercargill Middle School Southland Florence TAYLOR, admission date 30 January 1905 last day of attendance 12 February 1905 destination Wellington (Reference NZSG Southland Branch transcribed School register number 7736) Agnes and Florence left Invercargill in 1905 and moved to Gore where Agnes s daughter Edith her husband and family were living. Edith and William TRAINOR were recorded on the 1905 and 1908 Mataura Electoral Roll living in Park Street Gore. (Reference National Library / Alexander Turnbull Library Micro fiche of early New Zealand Electoral Rolls) Gore Main School Southland Florence Stella TAYLOR date of birth 28 May 1893 parent/guardian Mrs Adelaide TAYLOR address Gore admission date 13 July 1905 last day of attendance 5 September 1905 last School Redan Valley destination Dunedin (Reference NZSG Southland Branch transcribed School register number 2442) 11

12 Agnes and Florence left Gore in 1905 and moved to Dunedin. Kensington School Dunedin Note that 1914 was the earliest of the Admission, Progress and withdrawals registers of Kensington School held at Hocken Library in Dunedin. Union Street School Dunedin Florence TAYLOR date of birth 28 May 1894 parent/guardian Mother address 310 Castle Street last School Kensington Std II level reached (Reference NZSG Dunedin Branch transcribed School register number 0297) By using the school records we are able to trace the movements of Agnes and Florence. I locate various Invercargill rolls recording an Agnes TAYLOR but the same details appeared long after our Agnes left the region and after she died. Unfortunately I have been unable to locate any New Zealand Electoral Rolls recording our Agnes TAYLOR. I did locate a directory recording Adelaide TAYLOR but I do not think this is our lady even though she used this Christian name. Adelaide TAYLOR Boarding House 27 Boulcott Street Wellington = 1906 Directory Agnes and her daughter Florence moved from Dunedin to 21 Hereford Street Christchurch. Agnes was living at 21 Hereford Street Christchurch when she was admitted to Hospital on the 08 March I could not locate the 1907 Wises directory but the 1909 directory recorded William Campbell (occupation jymn. Tailor) living at 21 Hereford Street Christchurch. North Canterbury Hospital register of Patients Christchurch TAYLOR Agnes admission March 8 th 1907 female aged 42 native of New Zealand late residence 21 Hereford Street Christchurch died June cause Malady Cardiac Disease number of days in Hospital 96 days (Reference Archives of NZ Christchurch CH384 Page 215 Register Number 1416) North Canterbury Hospital admission register Ward No IV No 1416 Date March 8 th name Agnes TAYLOR - age 42 year - If member of Benefit Society [blank] address 21 Hereford Street occupation [blank] - nationality New Zealand - religious denomination Church of England disease cardial disease - under whose charge Dr Mill - recommended for admission Dr Laudstein (Reference Archives of NZ Christchurch CH384 Item 9/10 10-Hospital Admission Register ) Agnes TAYLOR formerly LECKIE aged 42 years born Dunedin died on 12 June 1907 at Christchurch Hospital. Cause of death cardiac disease Amnesiac as certified by J L GORKE who last saw her last on 12 June Her parents were Margaret formerly BOYLE and Stewart LECKIE occupation Labourer. She was buried on 14 June 1907 Sydenham cemetery by Anglican Minister Arch AVERILL. Agnes aged 18 years married Thomas TAYLOR in New Zealand. Her living issue were recorded as 1 male aged 22 years and 1 female aged 14 years. The Christchurch authorised agent J M MILLER registered the death on 20 June The registrar was Lionel Charles WILLIAMS. (Reference RGO NZ death registration 1907 folio 1327 line 588 Christchurch district) Many early death registrations recorded incorrectly information due to family members being upset while submitting the information and/or giving out incorrect information and/or the undertakers hearing, interpreting then recording the wrong information. On the death registration Agnes s living issue were recorded incorrectly and her daughter Edith was not recorded. When Agnes died her daughter Edith Emily TRAINOR was 12

13 living at Park Street, Gore with her family and Agnes s son Edward Charles TAYLOR was living at Denniston with his family. I searched but was unable to locate a newspaper article or death notice recording our Agnes TAYLOR. Sydenham Cemetery burial register Agnes TAYLOR - aged 42 years - occupation Native of England late residence Hospital - date of death June 12 th cause of death Cardinal disease - date of interment June 14 th division 4x9 Block C11 Grave No 20 (Reference Archives of New Zealand Christchurch, Accession 682, Agency code XAAA CH 682/2, Box U5 36d-e, page 43 in Register, No of Interment 1540) Florence must have stayed with someone when her mother Agnes was admitted to Hospital on 08 March What happened to Florence after the death of her mother on 12 June 1907 I do not know? Florence Stella TAYLOR would have been 14 years old at the time. I locate a 1919 Wellington Central Electoral roll for Frederick SINCOTT and a later burial at Karori cemetery Wellington. I searched but cannot locate confirmation about what happened to Agnes s husband Charles Thomas TAYLOR. The 1922 Christchurch electoral roll recorded a Charles TAYLOR address 52 Clifton Street occupation Builder but I do not think this is our Charles Thomas TAYLOR (Reference National Library of NZ Alexander Turnbull Library microfiche of New Zealand Electoral Rolls) Time and further research may give more answers regarding the life of Agnes formerly LECKIE her husband Charles Thomas TAYLOR and partner Frederick SINCOTT. Charles & Agnes TAYLOR their children and descendants 1-Edward Charles TAYLOR born 10 May 1882 Dunedin New Zealand died 09 March 1944 Wellington New Zealand married 31 July 1902 Lyttleton New Zealand Minnie WILBY refer chart 6-7 (Issue 5) Refer Weblink document TA Taylor Wilby 1902 New Zealand chart Edith Emily TAYLOR born 13 May 1883 Dunedin New Zealand died 06 June Waterview Road Devonport Auckland New Zealand married 05 February 1901 Invercargill New Zealand William Frederick TRAINOR refer chart (Issue 9) Refer Weblink document TA Taylor Trainor 1901 New Zealand chart Florence Stella (SINCOTT) TAYLOR born 28/9 May 1893 Dunedin New Zealand died 19 February 1968 Gisborne New Zealand married 02 March 1918 Featherston New Zealand Alfred William ELLIOTT refer chart (Issue 4) Refer Weblink document TA Taylor Elliott 1918 New Zealand chart TAYLOR miscellaneous information 13

14 Please note that over the years I have transcribed various TAYLOR information that does not belong to our genealogy so I have placed the details below as it may belong to other TAYLOR genealogies and assist others in their research. I was told that our Charles TAYLOR died in a fire along with two other different stories regarding his death. To begin with I thought the details below belonged to our Charles but after further research I realised this was a different Charles. I have placed the information below just in case someone else makes the same mistake as I first did. 0- Mr & Mrs TAYLOR 0-1- Charles TAYLOR born died 06 December 1894 Christchurch New Zealand #The Press Friday December FATAL FIRE - A MAN BURNED TO DEATH - At last night an alarm of fire was given from the box near the Caversham Hotel. On the Brigade reaching the spot it was found that the fire had originated in a small two-roomed house at the rear of Robinson s blacksmith s shop, St Asaph Street. The Lichfield street chemical kept the fire in check until a stream of water was got on from one of the steamers. In a few moments the fire was got under, being confined to the interior of the building. The shanty was occupied by a man named T Upton, a single man, who is well known in the city, and who is in the habit of having people staying with him. Last night he was in company at the house with A E McGurr, C Taylor, and a man whose name is unknown. On the Brigade reaching the spot Upton was outside, and said that though he had managed to get out, he did not know whether there was any one else there. C Taylor, who had evidently got out of the house, was found at the back in a dazed condition. His hands, back, and neck were badly burned, and he was at once removed to the hospital. On being questioned he could not say who was in the house at the time of the fire. He knew that there were some men were drinking and smoking, but he did not know who they were. On the Brigade proceeding to examine the ruins after the fire was put out the body of a man was found in an upright position sitting near the bunk. The face was burned, but several who saw the remains identified the body as that of E McGurr. The unfortunate man had been engaged in farming at Wakanui, where also he took part in racing. He had been in town for some weeks under medical treatment for his feet. He was a friend of Upton s and they were constantly together. Upton stated that McGurr was with him in the house last night, so that there is very little doubts as to the identity of the body found. McGurr is a widower, a man over fifty years of age, and has relatives in Christchurch. The body was removed to the Caversham Hotel, where it waits an inquest. There is no insurance on the building, and it is probable that the fire was accidentally caused by the men, who were smoking and drinking. C Taylor, the man who was taken to the Hospital, is a single man between thirty and forty years of age, a shoemaker by trade. He has relatives in Christchurch. The injuries he has received, though somewhat serious, are not likely to prove fatal = Reference Alexander Turnbull Library microfilm Oct-Nov with part December #The Press newspaper Saturday December Fires - The man Taylor who was taken to the Hospital died about 9.am yesterday in that instituted from the effects of the injuries received at the fire on Friday morning. An inquest taken place at the Caversham Hotel at 9. A.m. to-day on the body of E. Mcgurr and one on the body of C Taylor will be held at the Hospital at 4 am = Reference Alexander Turnbull Library Micro film Oct-Nov with part December #The Press newspaper Monday December The Late Fatal Fire - Inquests were held on Saturday touching on the deaths of Edward McGirr and Charles Taylor, victims of the recent fire in St Asaph Street. In the case of the former a verdict was returned to the effect that the deceased was accidentally burned in the house of Thomas Upton, and that the fire was caused by the inmates while in a state of intoxication. In Taylor s case the verdict was that the deceased was 14

15 accidentally burned while in a state of intoxication = Reference Alexander Turnbull Library Micro film Oct-Nov with part December #The Press newspaper Monday December The Fire in St Asaph Street - The Inquests. - An inquest was held at the Caversham Hotel at 9 a.m. on Saturday etc. The article gives a full description into the fatal deaths of Charles TAYLOR and Edward MCGIRR. The owner of the burnt house Thomas UPTON who did not have any insurance = Reference Alexander Turnbull Library Micro film Oct-Nov with part December 0-2- Fay/Fanny TAYLOR born died married Mr MCALLISTER born died #In the Coroner s report on the Christchurch fire where Charles TAYLOR died it reported that his body was identified by his sister Fay/Fanny MCALLISTER = Reference Archives NZ Christchurch office 1895 agency J=Justice series 46 item COR coroners 1895/62 0- Charles TAYLOR born died 17 December 1878 Cobden West coast New Zealand married Ruth born died #Charles TAYLOR coalmine manager Cobden founder of Taylorville Gloucestershire 1850 s Buninyong near Ballarat 1866 arrived in NZ settled in Cobden Trustee of Grey Valley Accident Relief Soct. (see P Horan) Granted sections 52, 53, 54, 55 & 56 bordered by Cardwell Street Bright Street Palmerston Street & Nelson Quay = Reference Hokitika Museum index card Charles Taylor see photo p 58. Cyc N.Z. #Probates - In the Supreme Court New Zealand - In the matter of the goods of Charles TAYLOR late of Cobden deceased Intestate. No Inventory with affidavit verifying same annexed - Filed 7 th June 1879 Alfd H King Regt - Grumess & Moss Solicitors Greymouth. Wife was Ruth TAYLOR and there was a Joseph TAYLOR storekeeper Brunnerton recorded in the letters of administration. 4 pages of photocopying are held Taylor file = Reference Archives NZ Christchurch Office Charles TAYLOR probate agency CH3000 accession HK 173 item 1879 Hokitika photocopies held in Taylor file NOTE Charles s estate was worth about 1195 and one document gave a full description of what he owned which included Shares and acres of land in various districts within New Zealand #In the District Court of Westland Holden at Greymouth filed date 22 April 1879 In the matter of the Goods of Charles TAYLOR late of Cobden deceased Intestate Motion Paper - Mr Grumess to move on Thursday the sixth day of March or so soon thereafter as consul can be heard that Probate be granted to Mrs Ruth Taylor widow Grumess & Moss Solicitors Greymouth = Reference Archives of New Zealand Christchurch Office Charles TAYLOR probate agency CH300 accession GM 42 item 1879 Greymouth photocopies held in Taylor file 0- Charles TAYLOR born 17 July 1840 Greenwich Kent England died 1863 married Ellen THOMPSON born died #Star Weekender newspaper Sunday April 12, 1998 Community News article page 6 Dunedin #Arrived 1852 on Slain Castle age 12 years and settled in Kaitangata South Otago 0-1 Charlotte TAYLOR born died married 0- Edwin TAYLOR born 1859 (folio 242) Christchurch died 1886 (folio 910) Rangiora married 1881 (folio 2557) Jane WARD born 1864 (folio 707) Oamaru died 1887 (folio 957) Dunedin 0-1- Charles Edward TAYLOR born 16 October 1882 Oamaru NZ 0- Thomas Samuel TAYLOR born died married 29 November 1876 (folio 2759) Geraldine Fanny PAGE born died 1886 (folio 389) Geraldine 0-1- Emily TAYLOR born 15 January 1884 Geraldine 15

16 0- John TAYLOR married England Mary Isabella SAUL born died 26 December 1901 (1902 folio 609) Oamaru 0-1- Florence TAYLOR born 02 May 1894 Oamaru NZ 0- George TAYLOR married Sarah 0-1- Agnes TAYLOR married William Curtis HAVILL #Agnes twin sister to Sarah brothers Bill & George daughter of George and Sarah Taylor = Reference Hokitika Museum index card Taylor Agnes & William Curtis Havill see W C HAVILL file museum & photo 7570 & David TAYLOR (farmer of Portabella) born died 1871? married Elizabeth (Betsy) ALLAN #Star Weekender newspaper Sunday April 12, 1998 Community News article page 6 Dunedin 0-1- Maude Alice TAYLOR born Portabella Otago NZ died 1 st married 1905 Albert HORLER 2 nd married MORETON 0-2- William TAYLOR born Murdoch TAYLOR born Peter TAYLOR born 1870 Birth registrations New Zealand RGO Edward Thomas TAYLOR was born on 21 April 1880 at Pigeon Valley Waimea South. His parents were Mary formerly WHITE aged 44 years born (1836) Bath England and John TAYLOR aged 43 years born (1837) Northampton England occupation Bricklayer. The parents were married 10 February 1857 Nelson. The father John Taylor from Pigeon Valley Waimea South registered the birth on 31 May The registrar was Eliah BAIGENT = Reference RGO NZ birth registration 1880 folio 1538 line 34 Waimea South district Charles Edward TAYLOR was born on the 16 October 1882 in Hampden. His parents were Jane formerly WARD aged 18 years born (1864) Hampden and Edwin TAYLOR aged 23 years Born (1859) Christchurch Canterbury occupation Labourer. The parents were married on 31 December 1881 in Wanganui. Edwin Taylor the father from Hampden registered the birth on 23 November The deputy registrar was Joseph Leask TAIT = Reference RGO NZ Birth 1882 Folio 4980 Oamaru District Margaret TAYLOR was born on 04 March 1883 South Winton Southland. Her parents were Mary formerly McGREGOR aged 37 years born (1846) Wigtoon Scotland and James TAYLOR aged 37 years born (1846) Berwick Scotland occupation carter. The parents were married on 25 February 1864 in Dunedin Otago. Mother of child Mary TAYLOR of Winton Southland registered the birth on 16 April The registrar as James ROBSON = Reference RGO NZ birth register 1883 folio 2163 line 43 Southland district Emily Elizabeth TAYLOR was born on 05 March 1883 Otautau. Her parents were Elizabeth formerly TIMBETH aged 22 years born (1861) Woolwich England and William John TAYLOR aged 33 years born (1850) Derby England occupation Labourer. The parents were married 12 May 1882 in Riverton NZ. George ROBERTSON from Riverton had specially instruction to register the birth on 17 April The registrar was Mr Benj. [sic] BAILEY = Reference RGO NZ birth registration 1883 folio? line 54 Otautau district Maggie Stewart TAYLOR was born on 09 September 1884 Rangitata South Geraldine. Her parents were recorded as Esther Agnes formerly DUNN age 39 years born (1845) Woodminister Surrey England and Duncan TAYLOR aged 49 years born (1835) Banffshire Scotland occupation Farmer. The parents were married on 10 June 1865 in Geraldine. Thomas TAYLOR brother from Rangitata South registered the birth on 30 October The Deputy Registrar was William R ANDREWS = Reference RGO NZ birth registration 1884 folio 4255 line 2007Geraldine District 16